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Richard
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5/18/2004
11:49:01
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Hello all.
My parents have an old BELL & HOWELL PERPETUA 390E or TE 393E judging from a picture I found on ebay - ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=628&item=3815354458&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW ) Their's is the multi - lens model. It's in very good shape and they are thinking about eBaying it. My question is: which model is it and what is it worth? Any other info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Richard
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Ben
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5/18/2004
21:39:34
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If you have the three lens turret model, then it's properly called the Bell & Howell Electric Eye Model 393 E "Perpetua". It was made around 1959 and used standard 8mm film. Frankly, it's a darn boat anchor, but if it's in truly excellent overall working and cosmetic condition it should sell in the $30 to $40 range on eBay. In general, amateur 8mm cameras generate little collectible interest and have virtually no usable value.
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Richard
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5/19/2004
05:36:09
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Thanks for the info!
Richard
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Richard
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5/19/2004
17:32:18
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Ben,
After talking to my Dad, he says that he remembers the camera from the mid to late 1940's - about 10 years eariler than your date. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Richard
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Ben
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5/20/2004
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Uh, well, your dad is wrong. The Bell & Howell Electric Eye Model 393 E "Perpetua" was absolutely positively introduced in 1959. That's a fact of history, not your dad's memory! Perhaps you have a different Bell & Howell camera that resembles the one on the instruction book you referenced on eBay (Bell & Howell goes back many decades, and they made an awful lot of models that were indeed VERY similar in appearance), but the Bell & Howell Electric Eye Model 393 E "Perpetua" is definitely 1959. Another note, with 25+ years of dealing in collectible cameras, roughly 3 out of 5 people who tell me about their old cameras tend to "remember" buying them 10 to 20 years earlier than they actually did. Uusally they confuse the current camera in question with something completely different they owned earlier. I just went through this exact same situation with another son of a dad with the old family movie camera. Dad insisted the camera was bought in the 1940's, but I knew the camera was definitely 1960's. Dad argued that he had films made with the camera in the 1940's. Well, after further reveiw, he did indeed have films from the 1940's. However, they were all 16mm films. The camera in question was 8mm!!! More review showed that all the films he made starting in the early 1960's were...8mm not 16mm!!! Memory is a funny thing. So either you've mismatched your camera with that illustration on eBay, or your dad is simply not remembering clearly.
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Richard
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5/21/2004
05:30:05
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Ben,
I strongly supected that this was the case!!! Thanks. It will give me great joy to prove him wrong - again : ) He was wrong the other day about a movie star being dead. This was the first time ever to hear him tell it!
Thanks again
Richard
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Charlotte Novak
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8/08/2005
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My daughter has a Bell&Howell Zoomatic Electric Eye Director Series Ill. K150-7803-8030 8MM model 414P with case and original paperwork how much is it worth she was quoted $3000.00 5 years ago I told her she should have grabed the offer because cameras aren't worth anything these days. Please need help. Thank you
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Ben
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8/09/2005
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I'm afraid your daughter either misunderstood, was the subject of a cruel joke, or given blatantly false information by somebody totally inadequate for the job (or worse, by somebody claiming to be a "professional appraiser" who charged her for the service!)! The Bell & Howell Zoomatic 414 series of 8mm movie cameras were common amateur models, made in several subtle yet equally bland versions throughout the late 1960's, that sell for about $30 today. Never ever in anybody's wildest dreams did they have a value of $3000!
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Jimmy
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12/07/2005
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I found this camera in my great grandpas house and how nothing about it and wanted to know what if anything it is worth if you could tell me that would be great. I cant figure out how to put pictures of it on here so is there an email were i can send them to you. Thank you Jimmy
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Ed
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8/25/2006
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i was given a director series electric eye 8mm movie camera model 414-414p with case original booklet etc looks new would going to a collector site istead of the ebay site would value be better just asking being a 100 percent disabled americam MARINE VETERAN didnt want to sound dumb thank you for all help im Ed Streker
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ed
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8/25/2006
20:46:57
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have eastman kodak #120
brownie target six-20 also eastman kodak
brownie flasher six-20
polaroid color pack model 210 with flash kit
canon snappy QT
kodak trimline instamatic 18
RCA solid state image sensor vhs camcorder
same ? as my other on the bell howell 8mm
values a good site to go to thanks Ed
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